mcalex, zdaj v kratkem se bom šel prvič testirat za količino testosterona. Ker bi rad samo okvirno vedel kje sem, pa nebi rad preveč plačal, me zanima kaj naj si dam zmerit-prostega ali skupnega? Kateri mora biti dovolj nizek da dobiš trt preko zavarovanja?

mcalex je napisal/a: Prosti je ravno aktivni - skupni je lahko visok a če je zelo visok delež le-tega vezan na SHBG je ta lahko nizek.

ravno to sem mislu. 98-99% je celokupnega testosterona, ta je vezan na SHBG in albuminij manjši delež, ostali je prosti/aktivni. Le ta se lahko veže na AR.

Za libido je pa tako ali tako bolj pomemben metabolit DHT.

DHT forms naturally in the body from testosterone, especially in androgen dependent tissues, besides muscle tissue. When testosterone enters neural tissue, skin, or endocrine tissue it converts to DHT under the catalytic properties of 5-AR. In a 5-AR deficient environment, sufficient amounts of DHT would not be produced, causing serious physical and physiological malformations.

Case Study:
Researchers studied a congenital disorder that limits DHT development in children. Pseudohermaphroditism results from deficiency in the enzyme 5-AR. Children with the disorder display "ambiguous genitalia and are often raised as girls." At the onset of puberty, testosterone levels increase as expected, while DHT levels remain stunted. Muscle development proceeds as usual, however secondary male sexual characteristics, such as body and pubic hair growth, do not and they also have underdeveloped prostate glands and penises. As a result, the disorder affects their sexual function and libido.

The overarching implication of this pathological study asserts that proper levels of DHT in the body are necessary for proper sexual development and sexual function.

DHT and Libido:
DHT's status as a highly active androgen hormone causes an increase in sex drive, especially in individuals using supplemental amounts of it. Its inhibition of estrogen in the body also causes the increase in sexual desire. In growing individuals, it acts to develop secondary sexual characteristics.

petr32 je napisal/a: mcalex, zdaj v kratkem se bom šel prvič testirat za količino testosterona. Ker bi rad samo okvirno vedel kje sem, pa nebi rad preveč plačal, me zanima kaj naj si dam zmerit-prostega ali skupnega? Kateri mora biti dovolj nizek da dobiš trt preko zavarovanja?

Jaz bi dal testirati oboje + DHT in oestrogen, SHBG, FSH in LH

Samoplačniško pa spet ni tako drago (estadiol)

Takšni ceniki so cca povsod enaki (v povprečju ni velikih odstopanj)

http://www.urologija.si/gradivo.php?subaction=showfull&id=1199552480&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

Pa je res cheap, wow   Hvala za link. Moram nekoga nujno poslat testosteron zmerit.

En zanimiv podatek, kaj je Dorian Yates jemal (je sam povedal na enem od seminarjev):

At his peak (140kg bodyweight) he took 1000mg testosterone, either 500mg of deca-durabolin OR boldenone (equipoise) and 50mg (daily) dianabol and 8 units of GH (daily).

Redkister je napisal/a: Pa je res cheap, wow   Hvala za link. Moram nekoga nujno poslat testosteron zmerit.

ni kej 

snooze je napisal/a: En zanimiv podatek, kaj je Dorian Yates jemal (je sam povedal na enem od seminarjev): At his peak (140kg bodyweight) he took 1000mg testosterone, either 500mg of deca-durabolin OR boldenone (equipoise) and 50mg (daily) dianabol and 8 units of GH (daily).

no za tazga GURUJA PA DA ENAČI DECO IN BOLDENONE...sori to je neresnično....čisto druge karakteristike....

A temu pa verjameš....THE LAST CYCLE OF ANDEAS MUNZER:

This is the last cycle that Andreas Munzer took before he died

Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix

PO TEKMI PA JE UMRL...


SAMO RAČUNI KOK JE TO DENARJA SAMO ZA AAS

NAŠ GREGA KOMAN naj bi imel tudi 7 000 mg Testosterona na teden....pa primerjaj to z naturalcem, ki naj bi proizvedel 7mg/dan, tedensko torej okoli 49mg

gapi je napisal/a: NAŠ GREGA KOMAN naj bi imel tudi 7 000 mg Testosterona na teden....pa primerjaj to z naturalcem, ki naj bi proizvedel 7mg/dan, tedensko torej okoli 49mg

Pokojni seveda---domnevana genetska srčna okvara...